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[PART 2] I made program to find craziest sacrifices in a row.

The appetiser is a lie

The appetiser is a lie

@Lawncoder said ^

The appetiser is a lie

It’s not. I haven’t spread any lies in this post.
Could you provide additional information on why you think it is a lie?

@Lawncoder said [^](/forum/redirect/post/v8YTIt08) > The appetiser is a lie It’s not. I haven’t spread any lies in this post. Could you provide additional information on why you think it is a lie?

Hi. Nice combos.
Could you please share a FEN / PGN file with all those briliances? It would be good to create study to solve these positions.

Hi. Nice combos. Could you please share a FEN / PGN file with all those briliances? It would be good to create study to solve these positions.

@chnntact said ^

Hi. Nice combos.
Could you please share a FEN / PGN file with all those briliances? It would be good to create study to solve these positions.

Hello chnntact!
I'm glad you liked those positions.
Those studies already exist, and you can freely download it, as it is enabled. If I share the link here, lichess will automatically turn it into a picture, so I will post a link with "()" , make sure to remove them so the link is working.

  1. https://lichess(.)org/study/puq9JebE
  2. https://lichess(.)org/study/uFGOm1lc
    Right now they aren't in the solving mode, but I have a file of more than a 100 positions in which the brilliant move was the only one winning and meets all "puzzle" requirements. I can send it to you (for example, email) if you want, so it will be possible to paste it to the lichess study.
@chnntact said [^](/forum/redirect/post/qp8DbfVp) > Hi. Nice combos. > Could you please share a FEN / PGN file with all those briliances? It would be good to create study to solve these positions. Hello chnntact! I'm glad you liked those positions. Those studies already exist, and you can freely download it, as it is enabled. If I share the link here, lichess will automatically turn it into a picture, so I will post a link with "()" , make sure to remove them so the link is working. 1. https://lichess(.)org/study/puq9JebE 2. https://lichess(.)org/study/uFGOm1lc Right now they aren't in the solving mode, but I have a file of more than a 100 positions in which the brilliant move was the only one winning and meets all "puzzle" requirements. I can send it to you (for example, email) if you want, so it will be possible to paste it to the lichess study.

@Fire-work said ^

The appetiser is a lie

It’s not. I haven’t spread any lies in this post.
Could you provide additional information on why you think it is a lie?

Engine says its a draw after e7, but also Bc5 stops the pawn leading to a more obvious draw, so the sacrifice chain isn't accurate, because the player on the black side made mistakes and didn't play accurately during the tactic (yes, I understand that tactics often arise as the result of a blunder , but this was after the first move!) so I wouldn't count it as a sacrifice chain

@Fire-work said [^](/forum/redirect/post/LoHZ2DRR) > > The appetiser is a lie > > It’s not. I haven’t spread any lies in this post. > Could you provide additional information on why you think it is a lie? Engine says its a draw after e7, but also Bc5 stops the pawn leading to a more obvious draw, so the sacrifice chain isn't accurate, because the player on the black side made mistakes and didn't play accurately during the tactic (yes, I understand that tactics often arise as the result of a blunder , but this was after the first move!) so I wouldn't count it as a sacrifice chain

@Lawncoder said ^

The appetiser is a lie

It’s not. I haven’t spread any lies in this post.
Could you provide additional information on why you think it is a lie?

Engine says its a draw after e7, but also Bc5 stops the pawn leading to a more obvious draw, so the sacrifice chain isn't accurate, because the player on the black side made mistakes and didn'...

Thanks for clarifying. I made a program that looks at the positions in which sacrifice is the only move. Then what happends if it is taken (is the next move also a sacrifice?).
Why I think that it is an accurate example:
You are right white is not winning, but both rook sacrifices are the only moves not to lose the game. If black blocks the pawn with the bishop - we won a knight.
Blacks capture isn’t a blunder, however it might be not the most accurate move. I’ve chosen to automatically capture the sacrifices piece instead of playing top line of the computer due to the one main reason: let’s say we sacrificed a piece which is too dangerous to take, best move is to just move away the king, we play some random move leaving this knight hanging again. Is it 2 different sacrifices? Technically yes, but we don’t give away much. So I agree that might not be best choice to put as an appetiser, but I don’t see how it is a lie.
I hope it becomes a bit clearer after my explanations.

@Lawncoder said [^](/forum/redirect/post/WnCJLn6o) > > > The appetiser is a lie > > > > It’s not. I haven’t spread any lies in this post. > > Could you provide additional information on why you think it is a lie? > > Engine says its a draw after e7, but also Bc5 stops the pawn leading to a more obvious draw, so the sacrifice chain isn't accurate, because the player on the black side made mistakes and didn'... Thanks for clarifying. I made a program that looks at the positions in which sacrifice is the only move. Then what happends if it is taken (is the next move also a sacrifice?). Why I think that it is an accurate example: You are right white is not winning, but both rook sacrifices are the only moves not to lose the game. If black blocks the pawn with the bishop - we won a knight. Blacks capture isn’t a blunder, however it might be not the most accurate move. I’ve chosen to automatically capture the sacrifices piece instead of playing top line of the computer due to the one main reason: let’s say we sacrificed a piece which is too dangerous to take, best move is to just move away the king, we play some random move leaving this knight hanging again. Is it 2 different sacrifices? Technically yes, but we don’t give away much. So I agree that might not be best choice to put as an appetiser, but I don’t see how it is a lie. I hope it becomes a bit clearer after my explanations.

If the first one is the appetizer, then the customer ordered waaaaaaaaaay too many mains.

If the first one is the appetizer, then the customer ordered waaaaaaaaaay too many mains.